juanchan Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Why? Does anyone work for them and fancy enlightening me as to why you need a working phone line to get Sky TV? I'm living in a newly built flat and I refuse to pay BT the greedy and excessive £125 fee to connect up a new phone line (when the engineer came to sort the neighbours phone line, he was in the building less than 30 mins. How the hell is that worth £125?!), but I'd like to get Sky as I'm currently looking to get a fairly decent LCD TV in the new year. My parents have told me that when their phone line goes down, so does the Sky. I'm genuinely intrigued as to what Sky use your phone line for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 They insist you have one at installation, but you do not need it - disconnected mine ages ago mate and Sky is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 I believe updates on the box are done by phone line, however the real reason is for to purchase Sky Box Office and films, or the interactive service. It is not needed to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanchan Posted December 29, 2007 Author Share Posted December 29, 2007 That's a quick reply! Thanks! So I'm probably going to have to fork out for a phone line I won't need or use then This moving house lark is getting more expensive all the time and I've been moved in nearly 6 months! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Just tell them you dont have a landline, see what they say mate - Sky does not NEED it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 This is NOT strictly speaking true... If you have a multiroom setup, it uses the phone to establish both boxes are in the same house otherwise they charge you for 2 subscriptions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanchan Posted December 29, 2007 Author Share Posted December 29, 2007 Just tell them you dont have a landline, see what they say mate - Sky does not NEED it. I'll give them a ring when I'm back home and ask, I just thought I might find out why they needed it before being put on hold by them for half an hour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanchan Posted December 29, 2007 Author Share Posted December 29, 2007 This is NOT strictly speaking true... If you have a multiroom setup, it uses the phone to establish both boxes are in the same house otherwise they charge you for 2 subscriptions... I live in a one bedroom flat, so multiroom is hardly an option for myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 PM Todd I am sure he works for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 I live in a one bedroom flat, so multiroom is hardly an option for myself Single box not a problem unless it is sky+ in which case it won't activate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanchan Posted December 29, 2007 Author Share Posted December 29, 2007 Single box not a problem unless it is sky+ in which case it won't activate. So the interactive stuff uses your phone line then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 So the interactive stuff uses your phone line then? Some yes, ie the pay stuff, the free stuff like bbc red button and that used to work just fine for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanchan Posted December 29, 2007 Author Share Posted December 29, 2007 Some yes, ie the pay stuff, the free stuff like bbc red button and that used to work just fine for me. Think I'll be cheeky and see if I can get away without then - I'm sure I'll live without the pay per view stuff. At least to start with anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 So the interactive stuff uses your phone line then? Yep. The RED interactive bit is through the phone line. Never had it connected. Ever. Didn't know about the Sky Plus though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Big problem is it is part of the initial contract, when they give you the box, you are tied to a contract for 12 months, much like a mobile. They might refuse to install without phoneline. You might get away with putting a box in the house next to the sky box with a bit of cable, and just claim your line is faulty and BT are coming out to fix it. Might help to have a phone on the side or something. (Or so I've heard ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanchan Posted December 29, 2007 Author Share Posted December 29, 2007 Big problem is it is part of the initial contract, when they give you the box, you are tied to a contract for 12 months, much like a mobile. They might refuse to install without phoneline. That's the other thing actually. The building has a communal Sky dish on the roof, so I wouldn't need to pay the setup fees for an engineer to install that. I was half hoping to be able to bag a used Sky box off fleabay and setup a Sky contract over the phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 they use the phoneline to id you as a phone line is a contract you can get sky through your mobile instead if its a contract i used too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bromy Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 We use our sky hd box without a line into the box, we just dont have access to the interactive services etc. I think it is in the contract that you must keep the line into the box for the first 12 months, I have heard of people over on avforums on the multiroom package being fined a months subscription for not having all their boxes plugged into the lines as sky think they have sold the boxes and cards, I am pretty sure sky send a signal down the line to check the boxes are at the address they are registered at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 We use our sky hd box without a line into the box, we just dont have access to the interactive services etc. I think it is in the contract that you must keep the line into the box for the first 12 months, I have heard of people over on avforums on the multiroom package being fined a months subscription for not having all their boxes plugged into the lines as sky think they have sold the boxes and cards, I am pretty sure sky send a signal down the line to check the boxes are at the address they are registered at. Aah. Before my time. Still just threaten 'em with cable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanchan Posted December 29, 2007 Author Share Posted December 29, 2007 We use our sky hd box without a line into the box, we just dont have access to the interactive services etc. I think it is in the contract that you must keep the line into the box for the first 12 months, I have heard of people over on avforums on the multiroom package being fined a months subscription for not having all their boxes plugged into the lines as sky think they have sold the boxes and cards, I am pretty sure sky send a signal down the line to check the boxes are at the address they are registered at. So if your box isn't plugged in at all, it will simply register on their check as not being used anywhere? I'll ask them all these questions when I ring, I just want to try and understand their logic beforehand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 i have had sky since it started, think i am paying about £45 a month now but rarely watch it, tried to cancell a few times but they just keep passing you over to someone else till you end up hanging up:blink: the last time i was that pissed off i waited and waited finaly got through to the cancelation supervisor, and the sod convinced me to stay at half price another year, the saga continues, never had my phoneline connected:D and don,t get me started on bloody bt;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanchan Posted December 29, 2007 Author Share Posted December 29, 2007 never had my phoneline connected:D and don,t get me started on bloody bt;) I really really really really want to avoid installing a phone line due to: 1)The incompetence of BT that I've experienced in the past 2)I never use one - free minutes on my mobile or a few pence every minute on the landline? It's a no brainer! It seems like I'm going to need one installed, but I'll see what they say in the New Year when I ring them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEERSHZ Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 i had sky multi room put in the stupid engineer ran a phone line across my hallway floor as we were decorating a the time consequentially i tripped up it and ripped it out the phone box now they keep sending me letters saying they will charge me another tenner a month if i dont get it reconnected, ive rang them and told them its their fault and until they come and sort it out properly im not paying. But convieniently i work 12 hours a day so im never in for them to come. dont seem to be able to give me a good enough reason to why it needs to be plugged in to phone anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 i had sky multi room put in the stupid engineer ran a phone line across my hallway floor as we were decorating a the time consequentially i tripped up it and ripped it out the phone box now they keep sending me letters saying they will charge me another tenner a month if i dont get it reconnected, ive rang them and told them its their fault and until they come and sort it out properly im not paying. But convieniently i work 12 hours a day so im never in for them to come. dont seem to be able to give me a good enough reason to why it needs to be plugged in to phone anyway. I'd lose it if some git told me I had to get something that's none of their business done. Followed by a call to Virgin Media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanchan Posted December 30, 2007 Author Share Posted December 30, 2007 Followed by a call to Virgin Media. I'm kinda after Sky Sports though - do Virgin Media do that?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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