dangerous brain Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Well how annoying do you have to find an attitude to something you read on this forum before you say something publically and not behind closed doors? A recent dispute thread has really set me boiling. The attitude of one of the people involved is to say the least despicable. IMHO if the guy doesn't do the right thing he really ought to be banned (not that I think that will really bother him). P*ss*s me off that still there are people on here that will sell on stuff they are fully aware of being in one way or another not what they are describing. I'm not going to support the guy thats aggrieved by PM as thats useless. I am going to say good on you for holding firm and I hope you get somewhere with the court action chap as its about time the buck stopped somewhere and petty misdirection ceased to be a tactic on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Name and shame that TO**ER:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris2o2 Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 I know exactly what you mean , its frustrating to read things like that . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Bri, I fully take on board what you are saying, however as the action is going into litigation, I don't think it would do any of the parties involved if this turns into a witch hunt. The whole point of the dispute resolution section was to avoid the witch hunt scenario and i wouldn't like to see anything that may undermine any impending legal action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 I fully agree with you Bri, but what Doug says sticks Hopefully the court case will work in the 'done over ones' favour, and that dispute thread can be forever linked if anyone sees him try to sell via here or via ebay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted December 20, 2007 Author Share Posted December 20, 2007 Yeah thats fair enough but it removes the ability of the rest of us to voice our opinion. Surely that is against the whole point of a "public" forum? I've not mentioned names or threads or indicted any individual or company. I've merely expressed my opinion that someone on this forum is not playing cricket. I don't like his attitude and am saying so in public. Is that not allowed? As an opinion its not submissable in any court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr lover Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 glad its not just me thinking like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRASUZUKI Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Reads across to this then? http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=133565 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 we all know what this place is like, it will all come out in the end no matter how far down the line as always. (this is a good thing btw) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Be good if said person could leave feedback on ITrader linking to said thread, at least those not aware will find out what hzas gone on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Be good if said person could leave feedback on ITrader linking to said thread, at least those not aware will find out what hzas gone on here it amazes me how many threads appear on the dispute resolution forum, and even after it's gone a bit nasty both people involved still have 100% iTrader feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted December 20, 2007 Author Share Posted December 20, 2007 I really hope so. Its so unfair when this sort of thing goes down. I will liken this to a phenomenon I used to experience in my time in the airforce. Shortly after arriving at my first real unit I was issued with probably the first goretex water proof systems. I was universally hated (not only was i the FNG but I had kit they had dreamed of for years). Shortly after the whole squadron was equipped with the goretex kit. This kit was still universally sought after across the rest of the RAF so you had to keep an eye on it. One day my jacket went missing. That was normal. I went and bought a new one from stores at a hefty £100. It happened also to other people I knew but they just passed the theft on by taking someone elses. Got the point that if your goretex was more than a few inches away from your finger tips it was fair game. I hated living in that environment (i locked up my goretex and used the old crappy stuff instead). So all in all I hate people that get themselves into a shitty situation and then instead of dealing with it pass it on to someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Yeah thats fair enough but it removes the ability of the rest of us to voice our opinion. Surely that is against the whole point of a "public" forum? I've not mentioned names or threads or indicted any individual or company. I've merely expressed my opinion that someone on this forum is not playing cricket. I don't like his attitude and am saying so in public. Is that not allowed? As an opinion its not submissable in any court. The disputes section was created to avoid the witch hunt mentatlity that used to pervade this forum. If you cast your mind back 12 months ago to the mkivstore debacle and remember how unpleasant it was on the forum, then you'll understand why the private debate system was created. You have an opinion. You're entitled to express it, but I would not like to see any member undermining another members impending legal action as a result. I appreciate that must be frustrating, and I fully understand that. I have an opinion on the matter too. I would love to share it with you all. I would love to show you some of the pm's from one of the parties involved following a moderating decision earlier in the year. But I can't and I find that very very frustrating that I can't express my opinion when I want to, but that goes with the territory. All that I am asking is that you respect due process and let things proceed. For now. it amazes me how many threads appear on the dispute resolution forum, and even after it's gone a bit nasty both people involved still have 100% iTrader feedback. It amazes me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRASUZUKI Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Too slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted December 20, 2007 Author Share Posted December 20, 2007 The disputes section was created to avoid the witch hunt mentatlity that used to pervade this forum. If you cast your mind back 12 months ago to the mkivstore debacle and remember how unpleasant it was on the forum, then you'll understand why the private debate system was created. You have an opinion. You're entitled to express it, but I would not like to see any member undermining another members impending legal action as a result. I appreciate that must be frustrating, and I fully understand that. I have an opinion on the matter too. I would love to share it with you all. I would love to show you some of the pm's from one of the parties involved following a moderating decision earlier in the year. But I can't and I find that very very frustrating that I can't express my opinion when I want to, but that goes with the territory. All that I am asking is that you respect due process and let things proceed. For now. It amazes me too. Yup and having spent some time talking to you about said mkivstore I found myself in a situation that I didn't much like either. Persons like this need treating in a certain way as usually the law or due process doesn't fix the issue. I finally got good feeling from seeing Martin sink good and proper but I really had to wait my moment. The person in this case has a car off the road and cannot afford this luxury. I would like to see this club get together and put him back on the raod. FFS there are enough of us that a quid or two and a trader with time could not fix. After all isn't that what club spirit is about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Like Doug, I'd like to expreses my opinion on this but cannot (yet at least) I would like to see this club get together and put him back on the raod. FFS there are enough of us that a quid or two and a trader with time could not fix. After all isn't that what club spirit is about? This is a start and proves there are still decent, helpful people out there http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=134811 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Yup and having spent some time talking to you about said mkivstore I found myself in a situation that I didn't much like either. Persons like this need treating in a certain way as usually the law or due process doesn't fix the issue. I finally got good feeling from seeing Martin sink good and proper but I really had to wait my moment. The person in this case has a car off the road and cannot afford this luxury. I would like to see this club get together and put him back on the raod. FFS there are enough of us that a quid or two and a trader with time could not fix. After all isn't that what club spirit is about? totally agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ads Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 The least they have done is completly ostrasised (sp) themselves from this forum IMO, and rightly so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbonut Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 it amazes me how many threads appear on the dispute resolution forum, and even after it's gone a bit nasty both people involved still have 100% iTrader feedback. Not if the barstool gets banned!! I've been done over too but the little toe rag did a runner so I've had no recompense but the iTrader should be used more. In facct there was a thread about it earlier this year, not sure exactly when. I'm sure someone will find a linky *cough* Michael *cough* Linda xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 I'm not your PA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbonut Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 I'm not your PA You wouldnt even get an interview, since I only employ people with a sense of humour L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHanky Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 oh man, don't remind me of Martin and the Mkivstore, I only lost £50 and some clear indicators but it still p**ses me off immensely to think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 You wouldnt even get an interview, since I only employ people with a sense of humour L Vicious...... Respect! H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 I would like to see this club get together and put him back on the raod. FFS there are enough of us that a quid or two and a trader with time could not fix. After all isn't that what club spirit is about? I think that would set a dangerous precedent - is the club going to fix up every club members car when things go wrong? Who qualifies and who doesn't? Club spirit it one thing, but when money is involved, things can quickly degenerate into an ugly mess - just look at the arguments that came out from paid club membership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 You wouldnt even get an interview, since I only employ people with a sense of humour I wouldn't even apply for the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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