Saw this on the news, a tradgedy for all involved.
Dont want to make political points, but if the road was slippy enough for the car driver to skid, then surely 50mph WAS excessive speed. Surely North Wales, home of the speeding mafia, must realise that if the road is icy then the speed should be (much) lower than, say, a warm dry summer day when the police are no doubt ernestly nicking people doing 63mph on the same road.
I hope everyone on here realises that you can't go as fast when its icy as you can when its warm and dry and that one day the powers that be might understand that a fixed speed limit, whatever the conditions, may be easy to police and can raise a fortune in revenue from fines, but has just cost those cyclists their lives.