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Probably will end up in Russia, they seem to be snapping up the last waves of clean imports.

I'm not sure about that. Auto TTs sat for weeks/months at 5 figure asking prices - the ones that got sold either had alot of desirable expensive parts (breaking value) or that the seller and buyer agreed on a new lower price privately.

Delusional pricing.

Like the colour, reminiscent of Hulk Hogan's Green Supra!

meh!

I think you will find a number of wealthy car buyers are rather easily manipulated by public opinion! Top end car ownership is 95% about perception and image, no matter how well built and how well it drove. The LF-A did sell (at a huge loss), what with its limited production run, it managed to sell in the USA, middle east and Japan. Only a few in Europe took a punt with one, and they got a bit of a ribbing from their peers. Toyota have the resources to make a car faster/better/more reliable/ etc etc, its whether they can do it at a reasonable cost. A new Supra needs to be 2/3rds the price of an equivalent BMW or Porsche - there needs to be v.f.m.

I believe you misunderstood my post. Toyota are a business, and they won't take risks on making a flashy performance car at a great expense when people will rather pay 70k for a BMW or Porsche. The GT-86 is no Porsche competitor, it is an affordable rival to working man cars like the Renault hot hatches, Honda CTRs and such. Besides, it was a joint effort by Subaru and Toyota to split the risk and costs. Lexus have a rather embarrassing streak about them within Europe, but they tend to do better in the USA and Middle East markets - the middle classes seem buy into that 'artificial prestige' there.

It seems Toyota are low on confidence of their brand for a halo sports car. I suppose after building the state of the art Lexus LF-A only for the likes of Richard Hammond to shit on it, and having not much success in motorsport outside of world endurance also has hurt them in the mainstream. The primary selling points of a Toyota car is that it's reliable, re-assuring and has plenty of value (affordable for the customer, with good profit margin potential for Toyota), if they cant build a Supra that ticks these boxes then it wont happen.

Very nice example, please do your upmost to leave it alone cosmetically!

You probably best off breaking it if you are hoping to re-coup much of the money you spent on the car and on it. Looks like it is suffering a similar fate to the other modified automatics out there, 5 figure asking prices might be a bit rich at present.

I am certain there are 2 'markets' for the used sports car, first one consists of the collectors type who likes low mileage, stock-ish examples in the most desirable colours and with a manual box. Buyers are willing to spend much more for these cars, they are not necessary fans of the Japanese car scene but are attracted by exceptional models like the Supra RZ, UK TT6 or an R34 GTR. Then there are those who want 'alot of car for the money' , therefore autos & half finished projects that are selling for far lower prices, unfortunately the recent asking prices on here and ebay partially influenced by the poor GBP to Yen rate has priced these buyers out for now.

Service history details would indeed be handy for a prospective buyer. J-spec brakes and standard 16" wheels are fine on a stockish car. A blingly set of 6 pot calipers and flashy rotors adds very little value, and screams track day abuse.

Lovely example, price spot on. Glws.

Low miles and manual, £5k+

I personally wouldn't buy it just to convert it to a manual car. A conversion including cost of a working V160/161 manual box is £4-6k, and you run the risk of mechanical failure due to the 2nd hand box or human error during the conversion. And then it won't be treated by the insurance underwriters as factory 6 speed so you might have issues insuring it - and thus resale value might be be affected. It's a very nice auto though.

Yep, best then to wait for the exchange rate to improve.

Hmmm, a 6 speed manual Supra TT in "black" is a very popular choice among car buyers, and not many Supras like that are about for sale lately. So while you are waiting for a specific colour/model combo to come along, the asking price could go up, up and up. You could consider looking for alternative colours also - this widens your options and your budget should be enough to find a good example. Good luck!

It would that no one is buying because interested buyers are almost priced out. The collective impression among sellers is that their prized MKIVs - regardless of their specs/work/repairs needed and increasing mileage is going *up* in price. Most sports car buyers who have £10k-25k to spend are not in the market for 20 year old Toyotas, there are far too many younger sporty/flashy motors out there in that price range - particularly from Germany. Anyway good luck to you and the OP with the sales, I could be (hopefully) wrong with the above after all!

IMHO, £15k is bit too rich for a former NA (possibly auto?) Supra. I would put it a low 5 figures with flexibility on offers for it to garner interest from people who may want a car as a semi-project. If you put it on ebay, prepare for the tirade of heartbreaking offers.

Lovely red Supra there! I personally prefer the 17" stock wheels as it goes so well with red, but you can't go wrong with BBS style.

A genuine 6 speed manual (from the factory) is legitimately trading hands for around that price yes, nearly they always have better re-sale power. Prices always remain strong with genuine factory manual cars. Automatics constantly are dismissed by the mainstream in the context of sports cars, you cannot convince buyers to pay anywhere near this sort of money. And swapping a 25 year old 5 speed gearbox certainly won't do it any favours - its a major modification that was carried out by someone, somewhere, and as such carries a high risk of uncertainty to the buyer, and with no official back catalogue for maintenance and repairs. You can put as much spin as you want about supply/demand, all I point out is that real demand reflects what prices the automatic cars are actually sold at, not what sellers are hoping it gets sold at on the blind basis on forum opinion.

No offence taken. It's not the news you want to hear, but it's at least one single honest opinion. I used to own a fairly stock R33 GTR until 3 years ago, and sold it during the time when everyone was convinced they were worth £10k-£12k easily with Japanese import dealers slapping similar price tags on their fresh of the boat offerings... I had to price under £7k that to actually sell it - I was getting stupid offers left, right and center. It would seem that the R33 (with exception to clean high powered / re-built examples) only attracted this sort of buyer. So the same applies here with the resale power of an Automatic Supra with high miles , if you take a risk by allowing inflated dealer ad prices to influence your buying/selling decision - then be my guest. All the best!

When you say market prices - I take this as the recent inflated prices (partially based off the shoddy £ to Yen rates) put up by dealers and 'importers' as seen in pistonheads and ebay? Automatic Supras are not being actually *sold* anywhere near that price unless they have exceptionally low miles and level of condition, and you can see in the classifieds here they are a few reasonably good Supras priced at the 5 figure level still waiting to be sold. An R154 conversion does not make it an original JZA80 with a V160/161, so its a modification that has to be declared when insuring it, one gear missing, the box is worth £450 and put together by whom? Good luck. £6.5 k is about right.

It's a JZA80 auto as far as it's origin is concerned. The R154 conversion adds no value except to a handful of buyers, and actually means insurance will be a bit trickier for some. Breaking for parts and selling it is a real hassle, better just wait for a buyer to come along and offer a good price for the GTR unless there is something up with that car also? Private sale value for a 112k mile 'auto' with considerable aftermarket styling?? £6.5k - and that's being quite generous.