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  1. Probably will end up in Russia, they seem to be snapping up the last waves of clean imports.
  2. I'm not sure about that. Auto TTs sat for weeks/months at 5 figure asking prices - the ones that got sold either had alot of desirable expensive parts (breaking value) or that the seller and buyer agreed on a new lower price privately.
  3. Like the colour, reminiscent of Hulk Hogan's Green Supra!
  4. I think you will find a number of wealthy car buyers are rather easily manipulated by public opinion! Top end car ownership is 95% about perception and image, no matter how well built and how well it drove. The LF-A did sell (at a huge loss), what with its limited production run, it managed to sell in the USA, middle east and Japan. Only a few in Europe took a punt with one, and they got a bit of a ribbing from their peers. Toyota have the resources to make a car faster/better/more reliable/ etc etc, its whether they can do it at a reasonable cost. A new Supra needs to be 2/3rds the price of an equivalent BMW or Porsche - there needs to be v.f.m.
  5. I believe you misunderstood my post. Toyota are a business, and they won't take risks on making a flashy performance car at a great expense when people will rather pay 70k for a BMW or Porsche. The GT-86 is no Porsche competitor, it is an affordable rival to working man cars like the Renault hot hatches, Honda CTRs and such. Besides, it was a joint effort by Subaru and Toyota to split the risk and costs. Lexus have a rather embarrassing streak about them within Europe, but they tend to do better in the USA and Middle East markets - the middle classes seem buy into that 'artificial prestige' there.
  6. It seems Toyota are low on confidence of their brand for a halo sports car. I suppose after building the state of the art Lexus LF-A only for the likes of Richard Hammond to shit on it, and having not much success in motorsport outside of world endurance also has hurt them in the mainstream. The primary selling points of a Toyota car is that it's reliable, re-assuring and has plenty of value (affordable for the customer, with good profit margin potential for Toyota), if they cant build a Supra that ticks these boxes then it wont happen.
  7. Very nice example, please do your upmost to leave it alone cosmetically!
  8. You probably best off breaking it if you are hoping to re-coup much of the money you spent on the car and on it. Looks like it is suffering a similar fate to the other modified automatics out there, 5 figure asking prices might be a bit rich at present.
  9. Anh

    Supra sales down?

    I am certain there are 2 'markets' for the used sports car, first one consists of the collectors type who likes low mileage, stock-ish examples in the most desirable colours and with a manual box. Buyers are willing to spend much more for these cars, they are not necessary fans of the Japanese car scene but are attracted by exceptional models like the Supra RZ, UK TT6 or an R34 GTR. Then there are those who want 'alot of car for the money' , therefore autos & half finished projects that are selling for far lower prices, unfortunately the recent asking prices on here and ebay partially influenced by the poor GBP to Yen rate has priced these buyers out for now.
  10. Service history details would indeed be handy for a prospective buyer. J-spec brakes and standard 16" wheels are fine on a stockish car. A blingly set of 6 pot calipers and flashy rotors adds very little value, and screams track day abuse.
  11. I personally wouldn't buy it just to convert it to a manual car. A conversion including cost of a working V160/161 manual box is £4-6k, and you run the risk of mechanical failure due to the 2nd hand box or human error during the conversion. And then it won't be treated by the insurance underwriters as factory 6 speed so you might have issues insuring it - and thus resale value might be be affected. It's a very nice auto though.
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