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The pump ECU loom and spare jspec ECU turned up today (Thanks SPG for the quick delivery!). As expected, the UK ECU is different to the Jspec one, there are more pins on it than the jspec loom has. The plugs on the NA and TT jspec cars are the same (though the ECU's are different, don't know why), but I know they are interchangeable. The UK is different though and this may well present a problem with the engine ECU. On the plus side the main body connector appears the same between the facelift and pre-facelift so this new loom should plug in, but my concern is that the UK one and the wiring to the engine ECU is different to jspec and it's going to throw some errors when it's connected up. Steve is coming over tomorrow so we'll see what happens when it's plugged in. If nothing then it's going to be a case of ploughing through the wiring diagrams to figure out what's so different about the UK fuel pump ECU. Some pics: 1) UK left vs jspec right 2) Uk has 4 large pins, 4 small ones, the jspec 5 small ones: 3) Jspec loom plug and jspec ECU
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Wow Marc, that is very generous of you!! I cannot turn that down, thanks so much. Beers on me at the next big meet
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Thanks guys, your offers are much appreciated For now I'm okay with the help, it's just a slow process picking through the looms and figuring out what needs replacing, then a few days wait for parts. Rinse and repeat Steve is only just down the road and has forgotten more than I know about Supra electrics and mechanics, so I think between us we should be able to get it to the running phase. The harder parts are to come, like sorting out the trans tunnel and pulling the engine for a rebuild (which I'm almost certain it needs). If help is needed I will let you all know, I'm really taken back by the amount of offers for help, this club is awesome I didn't realise you were so close by, that would be awesome James as there will be a few odds and ends I'll need... the sort of thing Toyota charges ridiculous amounts of money for. Will let you know, should have a better idea after Saturday If I visit yours I'll want to take Eleanor back with me, better not bring the misses as she loves that car
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That's a good price for the cut Ben, the prices I've been quoted before put me off doing it. Painted is one thing, but the diamond cut is what makes them look great. Saved their name for when the time is due, thanks
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Very nice, they really suit the Supra lines. I've had a set of these in the garage for 2 years, keep meaning to get them done! BTW, are these diamond cut or painted?
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There will be a vid, it's always worth it for the inane talk in the background while it's warming up Dean, you're a legend and that may well be a huge help. The engine on this one is in a very poor state with many rusted lines, bolts, fixtures and god knows what else. Spare parts would be a huge help. Will be in touch when I get a better idea of what's needed
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Appreciate it Sunny Excellent, I was going to order a new plate from Toyota tomorrow but they are quite expensive these days. PM on it's way
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Thanks Jason, I'm just posting what I'm finding on the car and describing it as accurately as possible. I still think there's more hidden problems (the dash looms are in a state as well as the ignition system), but whether that's the work of the previous garage or was there before I don't know.
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Some parts arrived today so managed to get a few things done, nothing major though... 1) Continued to strip the car back, removed most of the interior to check the wiring and clean up all the screws, bolts, and odds and ends left all over the place. Didn't find too many more issues with the loom, though several sections need small repairs. Nothing major though and it's just a few hours work needed with a soldering iron. 2) The headling had been pulled out along with the visors, no idea why. Refitted this and did a quick check of the wiper loom to find a snipped wire. Quick repair on that done. Refitted: 3) New coil pack clips, breather hose and water temp socket arrived today. £85, ouch. This is all that was left of the coil pack clips and breather hose from the engine. Totally knackered, amazing this thing every ran like this! Handy tip here (I learnt from Ryan), over time the connectors themselves become a bit loose, stick a very small screwdriver down the back of it and prise the clips back up so they sit snugly to the coil pack. Left one is tightened up the other isn't. They were VERY loose on the connector before doing this. Fitted back, but the engine is in a real state. This work is only to get it fired up, it will need either entire new gaskets or a rebuild 5) Pulled one of the coil pack pairs out, not good news, they need replacing too. The steel supports have rusted causing them to swell and split the coil pack housing. At around £90 each this will be expensive to replace, most have signs of splits. The spark plug wells were FULL of oil, the cam cover gaskets are leaking pretty much everywhere so also need to be replaced. On the plus side the spark plugs all look like they've been getting good spark. 6) Took a better look at the trans tunnel swap, it's even worse that it first looked. I'll let the pictures do the talking... for those that can't spot what's wrong, only half the trans plate has been replaced, the front half of the manual tunnel is still there, it's been partially plated up but there's still a huge gap between the interior and the tunnel. Total bodge job and would never have worked. That's it for today. SPG is shipping the all-important fuel ECU loom tomorrow hopefully so I'm hoping that will be here by Saturday. Steve is dropping by to help and hopefully we can get her started up
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Waiting for parts unfortunately, most of the bits arrived at Toyota today but still waiting on the fuel pump ECU loom from SPG.
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Lol, no, that's one part of the car that isn't going anywhere
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Thanks for the well wishes gents, it was a cheap purchase even given the state of the car. This is a project and I'm absolutely not looking to do a quick fix and sell this one, it'll be a car I keep a long time provided I can get it all fixed and working. It's certainly spent some time outside, not sure whether the bonnet is open, but while it's siiting on the slope on my drive water is washing into the hole with the bonnet closed. I know next to nothing about bodywork so will seek some advice how to keep this from causing a problem even if further welding is needed. For now though I'll clean the rust out and put some anti-corrosion paint on it until then. As above, I will leave what to do with this to the experts, the car needs some bodywork so my first priority is to get it running then get it to a specialist to tidy up the bodywork problems. I suspect the trial rear might have to come off and it possibly needs the rear panel replacing. Just to make it clear to everyone (as I've had some PM's from others asking), there's no issue or dispute between Jason and myself. He sold the car and described it to the best of his knowledge. I knew it was a risk to buy it unseen and did expect issues (and to be fair Jason painted a worse picture of the electrics than there really is), so there's no dispute between us. I feel bad for Jason as he's sunk a lot of cash into this project and is coming out of it very much out of pocket. If anyone has benefitted from this whole thing it's me, I've got the shell I always wanted, albeit with a lot work than expected in some areas, less in others. Jason also offered money back once the extent of some issues started to come to light, which I refused. A deal is a deal and I wouldn't see him any more out of pocket. He's been a gentleman throughout. My guess is something very heavy was placed in the boot then dropped, maybe a gearbox or similar. The damage is done now so I just need to get it fixed properly. And yes, that trans tunnel is laughable. The one in my current car was simply bolted in by myself, sealed and it was perfect to less than 1mm and extremely strong, no flex at all after 15k+miles. This one is 7mm out at the rear and that welding is a joke. The auto shifter doesn't line up because the auto plate has been warped by the poor quality welding work. Thanks Shane, much appreciated. I'm certain we'll get it running fairly soon and it's really not as intimidating or complex as the pictures may look. When the box install happens a spare set of hands is always helpful so I will hold you to that Absolutely. This is one reason I try and do as much as I can competently do myself, the bits that are beyond me I always go to the approved traders. For newer people it can be very hard to spot the real good ones from the wanna-be professionals or amateurs. Though this is not a thread to try and solve that issue...
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Thanks Steve, appreciate your help today. It's a real state but I'm certain we'll get it back on the road fairly soon.
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Sold unseen mate, I knew it was a risk, but always had it in the back of my mind that the car is worth a lot more than what I paid in parts, so worse case is I make some money parting it out. It's all fixable though and shouldn't cost too much to get running
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Thread updated with lots more pics... I will find out once the engine is running, but I very much expect so. Will probably take the head off for a rebuild as it's done a lot of miles. Yes, I'm sure. I already have a good w58 spare and cannot justify a £2.5k+ spend on a 6spd right now. Eventually though I would like to change to one but we'll see. At the moment I have no idea, but it does need repairing as the boot doesn't close tightly.
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We also found a lot of others issues with the car, here's some of them: 1) Damage to the bodywork 2) The famous "hole", needs to be cleaned of rust and painted 3) Missing clutch master, also clutch lines have been snipped off and left in place 4) MAP sensor line left open and tied up 5) One of several lines left open due to the charcoal canister not being installed 6) Hole cut in the bulkhead, not sure why this has been done. Will need welding up 7) This is the kicker.... The WORSE trans tunnel mod I've ever seen. The manual tunnel was removed due to the auto swap so I'll have to cut this all out and replace it with a new item from Toyota. 8) Spoiler extensively damaged, it will need to go in the bin. 9) Clifford 650 alarm, no idea why this was removed, there was nothing wrong with it. Will see if Lee is willing to refit it once the car is running again...
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First issue to fix was to figure out why the windows didn't work, the garage had left the drivers window down and rain was due a few hours later. Simple fix, the Clifford alarm had been removed for some reason but the main feed to the drivers switch was not reconnected. Simply cut the Clifford wires out and taped them together as a quick fix. Steve dropped by today to help give the car a quick once over, we found many small problems with the install and leftover wiring from when Johnny had it. The first thing we needed to figure out was why the car wouldn't fire up. There's 3 main issues we found: 1) The fuel pump ECU was not installed and the stock socket on the loom was not present. I assume this was due to the setup Johnny had (probably twin pump), but for some reason the garage never seemed to attempt to fix this even though the fuel fines were replaced (badly, see pic). The simple solution here is to replace the small part of the loom that connect from the passenger speaker pod area to the fuel pump. Pic of the really poor install of the fuel feed line, why it was done line this I have no idea. I'll be getting the correct fitting shortly so the tank cover can be fitted again: UK ECU and jspec loom, will need to get a UK loom to replace this, or make my own. (REVISION: UK and jspec looms are the same, though the plugs are different, the wiring is essentially the same) 2) The coil pack connectors on 4 cylinders were missing or seriously broken. Several of the wires were touching which would have caused a short. Will order some new coil pack connectors. Also notice the breather lines, they are completed broken and also need replacing 3) The Water temp sensor was broken, very common on older engines, but I believe stops the car from firing up. So, some parts to order from Toyota this week and also a call due to Keron. I'll fix these and see if we can get some fuel going to the engine.
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As some of you know I recently purchased a project car build from JasonR24, this car originally belonged to Johnny G and was a shell when Jason got it. I won't go into detail but the short summary is that Jason purchased a rusty UK spec TT auto doner and had a garage install the drivetrain whom attempted to get it running. Things didn't go to plan and Jason ended up needing to sell the car as-is. My plan for the car is to get it running first, then convert it to 5spd manual. I will be installing the nicer parts from my old supra such as: UK Brakes, as-new interior, black carpets, stereo, TRD diff, prop, drive shafts, W58, uprated clutch, and some others bits. I have almost all the parts needed for this already but it's going to be a time consuming project due to the previous modifications and incomplete install. This is still in the very early phases as it only arrived at my house yesterday afternoon so I've only had a quick look over it. We found many issues, mostly caused by the complex wiring previously in the car and poor workmanship trying to get it running (or lack of required parts, I don't know) Here is the car as it arrived: Anyone know if the car had this damage when Johnny had it?
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Off topic (but since win8 was mentioned..): This week I refunded a customer €9.6M on a windows 8 laptop purchase as they were not fit for purpose. The OS really is that bad (for business use)... we've rolled them back to high spec laptops on win7 which they are more than happy with. win8 is simply awful.
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Nice purchase, it looks so fresh and unmolested As an enthusiast may I request you don't stick any cheap tat to it, cars like this are VERY rare now
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Manwithsupra's Racing Supra Project thread
Homer replied to ManwithSupra's topic in mkiv Supra Projects
Keep the updates coming Rich, always love to read threads like these. Next time you're at Silverstone you're more than welcome to do a stop over at the new place. Plenty of room for the car and trailer, plus a nice little village pub a couple of minutes walk away -
It's got a long history! It was originally dudes drag car and a TT auto (which dude converted to a single). Stuff then happened and the car was stripped, I got the car as it was a few hours from being crushed. I then rebuild it using parts from an NA manual and many bits donated or bought from forum members. Hence, GZ NA manual, probably the only one! No idea on price, I'll have to see what the next supra is before knowing which bits I will take off it. It could be a complete fully running car or just a shell... I'll be sure to post it here before it gets taken away, I would rather see it saved than crushing yet another supra.
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This is how I did it too, it's quite an easy job, good luck
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Racing is on
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Heading there in a few minutes, on my own so I hope I can find a few of you guys!