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sounds like a good movie. i'll be watching it during the next week or so

that guy was eager to get to the car park sounds like there were no serious injuries so its all good and i can make some fun

i agree with what you are saying but the point i am trying to make is that you are a role model to your children whether you choose to be or not. you dont have a choice in it because your child will look up to you regardless as to whether you are a nice guy or a lowlife. you can choose to accept that responsibility or not. in my opinion an irresponsible person would shirk their responsibility and say they choose not to be a role model or they didnt ask for it. at the end of the day if your child chooses you to be their role model are you going to tell them that it is not their prerogative to hold you in that esteem?

my analogy was referring to how he behaves on the pitch and in his sport. kids as a rule dont go around boxing each other however they do play football almost everyday on the playground and copy what they see their favourite players doing on the tv and that includes celebrations. things like headbutting other players and kung fu kicking the crowd are not the things they generally tend to copy. and yes he has no obligation to be a role model but it is not his prerogative to decide if he is a role model or not, role models are chosen because they are in the public spotlight and in a position that others strive to be in. they have to accept that they are in a privileged position and that people do look up to them. so when they behave in a certain way when they are representing their profession i.e football, then they also need to accept the responsibilities that go with that and being a model professional on the pitch is one of those things. as for terry butcher and duncan ferguson, they were just thugs on the pitch and never looked up to by kids, i can safely say when i was playing football i never came across any kids that modelled themselves on those players or copied them in anyway..... they just werent good enough. ok, so forget what he did on the pitch..... he is going to be a dad soon. what kind of role model is he to his unborn child?? someone who cheated on his wife with some cheap hookers or the foul mouthed retard we see on the pitch week in, week out. i guess by your standard he doesnt choose to be a role model to his friends, family and children either because he didnt ask to be their role model. sometimes we are put in a position and have to accept the responsibilities those positions bring whether we choose to accept them or not

i dont see why the role model thing should get anyone. the fact remains that kids often act like their favourite football players whether we like it or not. we as adults obviously dont model ourselves on these stars but kids are easily influenced. how often do you see them running around shouting at the top of their heads that they are their favourite footballer and when they score they celebrate like them. so they see rooney running towards the camera and swearing, why wouldnt they do the same if their favourite footballer does it on tv. and that is my biggest problem with him, he is in the public eye and kids look up to him and he in turn behaves like a prick and has no reason for it other than being a knob and a lowlife by nature

the best motoring dvds are very good and have good racing as well as reviews of jap cars and supercars

i saw this live and thought wtf is the twat doing. there was no need for it and certainly deserves a kick in the pants for it. this guy just gets worse every season as a role model and has learnt nothing from model professionals in the squad such as giggs and van der sar

i'll offer 80 delivered if you still have this

very nice and a good price too. think i'll put this on my shortlist of cars i am currently considering as a replacement for my current car

hmmm not liking how this thread has gone from liverpool going down to hillsborough and the like.... but in my opinion most liverpool fans live outside of liverpool as they were more succesful and managed to move out of the city to a better place, whilst the toffees have lower expectations in life and are happy to just be as for them going down this season, i doubt it very much but i'll have a fivers bet with you if it makes you any happier kenny is a quitter and if he loved the club then he would never have left in the first place. he cant handle the pressure and 20 years on with fergie taking full advantage of his absence, he just aint got the iron fist required to bring the egos in football in check. personally, i would go for someone with a bit of premiership experience such as martin o'neill..... rebuilding the team wont be an overnight thing, it will take a good few seasons as there are a lot of things that need to change at the club

i'd buy it for 3k

if it was in mint condition, then i think it would be worth 4k ono but since its not, i would place it at 3k ono to get a better response

derby is one big pile of steaming roadworks at the moment. ffs, why cant they just do one stretch of road at a time instead of bits dotted all over the city for no apparent reason!!!!!

yeah will do bud within the next day or so just thought someone here might want it

ideal xmas pressie.... for yourself

pics added

selling my apexi avcr. just removed it from the car and it comes with wiring and boost solenoid. everything that you need to get boosting £SOLD

£10.60.... thats cheapio

they cost much more than £599, i have had these for over a year and not used them which is why they are cheap. *NOW SOLD* chrome wheels need more looking after however due to the effects of brake dust on them and salt on the roads over the winter periods

stern wheels, imported from the US although a lot of manufacturers have similar looking wheels

brand new, chrome wheels *NOW SOLD* 19x8.5 front offset 32 19x9.5 rear offset 35

£45 delivered for the slim one? if it comes boxed with a charger

selling my nokia as i have been given a pda phone from work this is boxed with software, wall charger, usb cable, ear phones and an extra battery. the phone has a few marks on it but nothing on the front of it or the screen and is in good working order. it is on the o2 network £70 plus post

bumpooo

there's no way i can check im afraid. i am pretty confident they would with the size and offset. if you could pay me a deposit, i could send one out to you so you could check