Jake

The B is the UK code (Comes with UK three pin plug) From what I've been reading today it seems the PZ81 is more like the PZ85 + FreeSat, rather than the PZ80. I called John Lewis this morning to order a PZ81 but while on the phone I discovered on the net that the PZ81 models only have 2 rear HDMI sockets (3rd HDMI on the front, which I don't want)

To be honest, I've never actually been to Tadley - but I work in Chineham and all the locals talk about Tadley like it's Beirut or The Bronx.

In Tadley? Was it up on bricks?

I find it useful sometimes, especially with edited posts - I can check the email and see what they really said before they bottled it and went back and edited their post. Some of Jazz1's are hysterical but he often thinks better of it and goes back to change it to something else.

£50? My £20 Gates one, specially ordered from Halfords (next day), has been fine for the last 4 years.

Thanks everyone. I wish it easier to understand the difference between the different model number versions. OK the 81B has FreeSat and 'Picture in Picture', but 80B?, 82B?, 85B? - what's the difference?

Blimey. Good on you dude.

OK, Simon and Alex, Why did you go for the 46" TH46PZ85 instead of the 50" ? I think I've decided aganst the FreeSat version now (although the Picture in Picture feature you also get with the 81B appeals to my gimmick loving side). I've just got to decide between the 46" and 50" versions. The 81 is the newer version of the 85, right? (not the newer version of the 80 as you might guess from the name) My broadband is from Virgin because I can't get 20meg DSL. As it happens I also get 2meg broadband free from Sky but I don't use it.

I'm not anti-HD per se, Dave, I just don't want to give Sky any more money than I do already. I don't feel like I'm getting good value from the £57/month I paid Sky at the moment, so another £10/month is out.

Oh I didn't realise you had a Panansonic plasma. From what I've read they're supposed to be very good at SDTV. Good. Honest critical views are what I need. I can afford it I suppose but to me it's not worth twice the price for a small improvement. I'm no A/V expert anyway.

It was quite scary at the time.

Is that because your set doesn't do SD very well though? I've been reading that a lot of HDTVs don't display SDTV at all well. I don't watch much TV either but I do need it to be good for sport. My current LCD is poor at displaying fast moving pics, like footy. I'll look into it - cheers.

The old CRT TV in my computer room/dining room is playing up, I think it's gonna die soon. So I'm gonna get a new plasma, for the living room and move the JVC 37" LCD from the living room to the computer room. I'm looking at 42" or bigger. I've decided the Panasonic plasma is the one for me, based on good reviews almost everywhere and Alex on here speaks highly of his 46" Panny TH46PZ85, and he's a right fussy bugger so they must be good. But which one? We have SKY+ but don't have SKY HD, and don't plan on getting it (not worth £10/month extra IMO). So SDTV is mainly what it needs to be good at. However, some of the Panasonic plasmas have a FreeSat HD tuner built in. Which can use a seperate feed from our existing Sky satellite dish. Is this worth paying the extra for? Obviously smaller is cheaper. The 42" TH42PZ80B is (no freeSat) is only £685 from Dixons. The 42" TH42PZ81B with FreeSat is about £900 from John Lewis (5 year guarantee and free delivery from JL) Then in 46" there's the TH46PZ80B (no FreeSat) which is £978 from Dixons Or the TH46PZ81B(with freeSat) for £1279 from Dixons - seems a big jump from £978 to £1279 though. Not sure it's worth the extra. Or in 50" there's the TH50PZ80B (no freeSat) for about £1100 or the TH50PZ81B (freeSat) for about £1320. The more I look the more unsure I'm getting. Any thoughts?

OK, here goes... Basically, at one of the first Ten Of The Best events (TOTB2 I think) John 'Dude' Morgan thought there was a problem with the drivetrain on his Supra. So the car was jacked up so both rear wheels were of the ground and we were both checking for abnormal play in the driveshafts/diff/prop etc. Unknown to Dude, I was still laid alongside the car checking the rear wheel bearings when he, at the rear of the car, decided to let the car off the jack - which trapped my right hand under the rear tyre. So I'm laid there going "Oh my goodness, that smarts a bit. Would somebody mind jacking the car up again so I can have my hand back please?". I think. No, actually it was more along the lines of ... "AAAARRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!, MY HAND, MY FUKCING HAND, AAAARRRGGGGHHHH, AAAARRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!" Luckily for me, the boys from CRD were in the pit next to the mkivsupra one and got the car jacked up again very quickly. I can't remember why John didn't just jack the car up again himself - he was probably p!ssing himself laughing. Nothing broken, thank God, but my had was strangely white and my fingers rapidly swelled up like sausages. I was smoking a cigarette at the time of the accident and Ian C was most amused that while I was trapped, with my free hand I was taking puffs on the ciggy between screams. No problem mate. I'm telling these tales for the amusement of you guys.

I've just checked, since 11-Dec-2007 I've been sent 11,115 "Reply to thread..." emails And I've still got them all!

This is MkIVSupra.net mate

Don't you have an RS4 already?

Is it your right shoulder?

Another one (sorry but I'm on a roll ) We used to do a lot of water skiing when I was growing up on the Isle Of Wight. When was about 17 my old man decided I was old enough to drive the speed boat. So I'm driving the boat, on my own (yeah great idea Dad, well done) and the old boy was skiing behind the boat (He'd have been in his late 30's if I was 17 - so younger than I am now!) Anyway, at one point he fell off the waterski and I was a bit too quick to turn the boat round to go get him. I flung the steering wheel round to the left - the boat tilted a lot more than I expected (because boats keep full throttle unless you actually pull the throttle back - unlike cars which slow down if you stop pressing the throttle) So as the boat tilted sharply to the left I fell out of the seat and broke my collarbone. So I laid there screaming on the floor of the boat, in a tight wetsuit, which didn't help the broken collarbone much, with the boat going round in tight circles at full throttle whie my dad was in the water shitting himself that he was just about to be killed by an out-of-control speedboat. This. Is. Not. Good. I managed to turn the boat ignition off after a minute or two but it was scary for for a while. (So he tells me ) I can still remember my dad taking me to the hospital in total silence once we got ashore. He looked a bit ill actually. Must've been something in the water I don't think he ever really trusted me after that, the grumpy old bastard - honestly, you make one little mistake!!! .

You sound like my Missus! I've still got a Fireblade, but I don't ride it much since discovering Supras. Easier said than done mate. Some instinct makes you try to save it even when all logic would tell a sane person it's hopeless. It's not like you have time to make a reasoned decision, I guess it's something you either have in your personality or not (I'm not saying it's a wise thing) There's been a few times when what seemed like an almost certain nasty crash has been saved at the last gasp. I'm sure all the bikers on here have been in that situation and know what I mean.

Riding a Yamaha IT465 enduro bike home on the road after a bit of off road action on Sunday afternoon some tit in a BMW cut me up a bit coming off a roundabout onto a newly stone-chipped dual carriageway. An IT465 can wheelie in every gear and easily do 90+ MPH. So as I pissed past the Beemer in the left hand lane I popped a wheelie, just to really rub it in like, but sadly I gave it too much throttle and flipped the bike. Whoops. As me and the bike cartwheeled along the road we both (me and the bike I mean, the beemer just fooked off, obviously) mounted the curb and were headed straight for a bus stop where three old ladies were waiting for their ride home. Fortunately the main part of the bike tumbled to halt about 10 feet before it hit the old girls and two of them were even kind enough to help the ambulance chaps look for my right kneecap.

Came off a motorbike on a corner, hit a tree stump (which was a tree the week before ) and went into a ditch. Wacked head, broke both arms. Chinstrap of crash helmet was choking me but couldn't undo the chin strap because of the broken arms. Passed out. Woke up three days later in hospital. Luckily my mate on the bike behind got my crash helmet off before I was killed by it. 2mtr high Tractor tyre split and exploded in my face when inflating it after puncture repair. Unknown to me at the time, the guy holding the airline had put over 100psi into it in an attempt to get it to "pop onto the rim" while I was holding the wheel/tyre upright to clear the dirty ground while inflating. 25 years later I still having ringing in my right ear.

I thought so too but I was scared to mention it in case people thought I was being a bit grumpy.

Mate, you haven't looked a prat. We're just glad you came here and asked before you bought that thing. You've had a lucky escape mate, be happy. If you'd rocked up here with a "Look at my 600bhp beast!" intro post it would have been terrible. Keep looking fella, there's lots of good ones out there. EDIT: I posted at the same time as Homer, same gist though (we nearly always agree anyway)