vw would be good but are quite pricey, ivecos could be good a lwb daily would be a good size im not sure if it might be a bit heavy on fuel though. I also thought about a vivaro type van but my movano was excellent and tough in everyway apart from the renault engine and gearbox, i replaced the engine when that went but when the gearbox failed i gave up with it, it turns out the renault engines and box's in those vans are known for being weak so thats why im terrified of the smaller renault based vans. Everyone knows toyota's are made chuck norris style tough so the hiace is the favorite at the moment. As is probberly clear though vito's are just awful, I just don't understand how people look at the merc badge on my van and think that that awful thing is somehow better made than my toyota