Morpheus

Charles

Oh yeah, forgot about those! I'm not sure which is worse, waiting for the game or the tights!

Lear

Royalty

Lizards!

Honestly, the Riff-Raff one has to deal with on here, as an upstanding member of the community!

Rod

Sorry but I'll believe it when I see it. I've been hurt too many times!

Errmmmmm, any idea when the rest of us might get to buy it? Not even released yet, only Prologue so is it a pre-release copy or something?

Shirt

This will be old news to most of you but for those who are starting out with a GE and haven't driven a GTE, I was going to go NA-T myself and commented earlier in the thread (not always helpfully!) but one thing I would suggest if anyone is thinking of NA-T'ing or swapping to a TT engine is to make sure to actually drive a TT (or VVTI TT) before you decide to lower the compression ratio or swap over to a GTE. The difference in throttle linearity (predictability) and response (punch) is chalk and cheese territory. More like chalk and Kraft Philadelphia! The reason I say this is that I just picked up my 'new' stock spoilerless '97 VVTI TT last night after trading in the trusty Beast of Bomex and after driving home I'm already missing the immediacy and sheer grunt or poke of the NA, which is afterall, what throws you back in the seat. That's what gives me a buzz atleast, more than top end speed or smooth but oh so powerful acceleration, although it's on another planet compared to the NA at speed. Linear G-force is also why 'real drivers' prefer manuals, of course, although holding the NA Auto in first or second gear is just as controllable with the same fantastic engine braking, just not as controllable on a track and with limited gears. Once I've got used to the Tiptronic, (counter-intuitive buttons for me), I'll absolutely rave about it but right now, the TT VVTI is just too refined and smooth so NA owner's don't despair; you might not like them anyway until you forget how the NA drives and learn to appreciate the turbo/s. In yet other words, be careful to assess what actually gives you the 'buzz' that you're looking for, as the compression ratio makes a huge difference to the way the engine develops power. Ideally, you'd NA-T and very carefully push the boost as far as possible without detonation but even increasing the compression ratio at the expense of boost if you don't need more than say 300hp, since high combustion pressure is what actually gives you more torque/hp in the first place; think diesels @16:1 CR. There just happens to be a point at which, unfortunately, forced induction causes detonation because of the fuel octane level, hence race fuel, (slower burning) but you can do a lot to minimize knocking, if it should occur, like deburring and coating the pistons and chambers (head around the valves) with ceramics and choosing pistons with the right squish etc. I'm looking forward to seeing how David2009 gets on with his NA-Supercharged! Drag cars don't typically use turbos precisely because of lag, which superchargers have much less of and they can develop as much boost. Remember also that manifold/plenum boost pressure is actually backpressure or the result of airflow resistance, so it will always pay to port and flow the whole system before increasing boost, concentrating on the valve bowls and valve angles, flowbenching etc. They are very different though, the NA and TT, that's for sure. Maybe if my old NA was in the same condition as the VVTI, it would be even more of a marked difference. Ideally, I'd have an NA manual with very high compression for the track days that I've never been on and the TT for longer journeys. Only my thoughts at the moment and sorry for the long post. I just think people should focus more on getting the best out of the NA before boosting it, that's all, as you'll be starting from a better flowing engine, which when boosted, will see dramatically improved power over a non-ported/matched system but it has to be done right. Most people do the reverse and increase boost and maybe, if they can afford it, have the head worked and matching done when they hit a brick wall (so to speak) but you can do it yourself as you rebuild the top end if you have time. You just have to know what you're doing. Won't be touching mine now. Runs like new and saves all the hassle of conversion. Maybe if the turbos eventually go I might rebuild it..........just don't underestimate the work involved and always replace the valve stem seals and give the valves a hone if you take the head off. Doesn't matter how much boost you give it, if the valves aren't gas tight, you're spinning your wheels!

Wam

Touche!

Henson

:twak:Peninsula DOH!

Wash (btw Josh, you said Up before ;-)

Ok, once I've got the car tomorrow or Sunday, I'll make my mind up. Anyone else feel free to buy them, as I'm by no means sure at the moment. Cheers Jim

Thanks for that. My only concerns are compromising the ride comfort and making the car twitchy. My Beast gets dragged all over the place by ruts and cambers and the roads in Hemel Hempstead are diabolical. Definitely interested though, as can fit the 8 pot brake kit that I bought for the current car and never fitted. Will four wheels/tyres fit in a Supra? Anyone know? Looks like it but must be tight.

Do you think they'd look okay on a spoilerless? Don't want it too lairy and I actually really like the originals. These stock 17's should be ideal for your offroading! Swap ya or do a deal if 17's are ok? Would save me having to bring them home in the car.

A workmate has just had BT Infinity broadband installed (not sure of the logistics of it) and says he's getting 38 Megabytes per second download speed! Could be 380 kbps perhaps. My Virgin Media cable 20Mb broadband rarely exceeds 900kbps or just under 1 Megabyte per second, which is still quite fast. The majority of downloads are around 230kbps (1/4 MByte per second). All depends on the source and how busy it is. Youtube videos have become really slow to download in recent months for some reason (not just because of higher resolution, although this clobbers them proper sometimes) so it may not matter how fast it is above a certain threshold. I think they told me that they only do the one speed now. As an aside, and make of this what you will, the plan is to stop upgrading the 'Internet' and let it collapse under it's own weight and thereby invite everyone to register with 'Internet 2' which would have new terms, i.e. only 'approved' websites can use it. Censorship? This http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet2 article even admits that 'special interest groups' are actively engaged in it's development. Time will tell. Anyway, I have Virgin tv, broadband and phone for £35 per month but £25 of that is broadband. They should be charging for line rental but charge me only for calls. NTL included the phone and it carried over to Virgin when they took over but you might have to pay extra now. Might also get it cheaper as a new customer, if that is, you have cable in your area. Can't speak for any other service, sorry. This would be the best advice, if you subscribed. http://www.which.co.uk/technology/tv-and-dvd/reviews-ns/phone-internet-and-tv-packages/ Hopefully you'll get a good range of advice on here for free but I'm happy with Virgin Media's V+ Box. Incidentally, they charge £5 to enable pause live tv, FF and rewind on the remote unless you take their XL tv package. I downgraded as I hardly watch it and you get 65 channels for a tenner. Fortunately it includes the ones that I occasionally use, some in HD. iPlayer on the PS3 is more than enough for me and you can get it online among other tv sites so all you really need is a mobile phone and broadband. As far as I'm concerned, Youtube and Googlevideo etc. are the new tv!

You could just chuck one of these in if you want it to sound nice! Can't beat a V8 I say and it's a Lexus 1UZ FE. cRU2lDCSfBU

Fwiw, I was going to NA-T mine but decided to spend a little more and buy a decent car with a VVTI GTE Tiptronic and save the hassle and concentrate on the truck. Won't need any more power, that's for sure. These engines haul @ss and all for the price of a decent set of brakes! http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TOYOTA-ARISTO-SUPRA-TWIN-TURBO-ENGINE-VVTI-2JZ-GTE-/290497335929?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43a2fd9279 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TOYOTA-ARISTO-SUPRA-2JZ-GTE-VVTI-TWIN-TURBO-ENGINE-/250725743271?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a606b3aa7 Looms and ECU etc. might be an issue unless you're able to map an aftermarket ECU but I'm sure it's been figured out by now. This is very good value if you can get it here cheaply enough. Complete with spec's in listing. Probably talking £400+ shipping through BAX Global etc. but Canada can cost a fortune for small items. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-2JZGTE-VVT-i-Twin-Turbo-3-0L-Engine-1997-2002-2JZ-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem588b02921aQQitemZ380289323546QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories Photos might be useful either way. GTE as well for £1500 minus ancillaries again. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TOYOTA-ARISTO-SUPRA-2JZ-GTE-3-0-TWIN-TURBO-ENGINE-93-97-/370430666163?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item563f6365b3 I'll try to remove the links when they expire.

Please refrain from assuming that somehow a person who objects to the deaths of Iraqi's for example, isn't equally horrified at the deaths of 'our soldiers'. I think we can all take for granted that love is a universal constant and it is out of this love for humanity, in all it's forms, that anger and frustration arise, when an injustice is done. We're all on the same page here but some are more aware of the reasons for events. Also, no, coalition troops don't commit suicide until they get home and realise what they have done. Google Depleted Uranium Weaponry. Wait, I'll do it for you. http://www.thewe.cc/weplanet/news/depleted_uranium_iraq_afghanistan_balkans.html

Errm, ok, I'll wait until something goes wrong!

I didn't want to add to the aggro but it's not off topic any of this. The point of a forum is to communicate and people need to wake up quickly. I can't help but to respond when someone just doesn't get it though. It takes time to get your head around this stuff, believe me and not everyone has enough courage to face the daunting task. Sorry guys but watch 911 In Plane Site etc. then Google/Youtube William Rodriguez, WTC7 and I could go on. Bush stole the 2000 election by a Supreme Court ruling 5/4. Bought and paid for. This, after an arbitrary deadline and months of losing black voting slips and refusing to count them in his brother's State of Florida. Next in 2004 he stole the next one with electronic vote rigging. I've even heard an interview with the guy who wrote the software. Iraq was as much a threat to us as New Zealand, (fantastic driving country btw ;-). Hans Blix proved it and they stopped him from finishing his job. I can't believe they didn't plant WMD's, they're so corrupt. Blair admitted that he 'stretched the truth' to paraphrase and Robin Cook dropped dead (just like John Smith, David Kelly et al)) after he mentioned that Al-Qaeda actually means The Database (CIA operatives). Clare Short kept her mouth shut and survived but was the only voice of reason left in the Cabinet under Blair, that is, until she resigned. Free country? As the law stands now, you have no rights, period. The truth is no defence. Any trumped-up charge (infact, no-one has ever been charged of an offence in Guantanamo Bay to my knowledge), can get you disappeared to some foreign country for 'questioning'. Watch Extraordinary Rendition for some sense of what people are going through right now. We aren't even free to drive our cars and speak our minds unless some self-appointed 'Authority' grants us the 'priviledge'. Freedom is a birthright, not a priviledge and it starts with your mind. Free that or you're a pawn. We're free to work hard, pay a large part in tax at source, then get taxed again when we spend it (WTF??), (soon to be 20% VAT), on petrol for example that's already taxed at whatever ridiculous percentage already. It costs 5c a barrel to extract btw. Not a bad markup! Avererage speed cameras with automatic fines and toll roads will show you how free we are. Oh, sorry, we already have them! Been down the M1 recently or through the Dartford tunnel/Severn bridge, Congestion Zone etc.? Next you'll be saying that there's no plan to microchip everyone! Read this if you dare and it's not even that detailed; http://www.opednews.com/populum/diarypage.php?did=15003 Finally, the whole left-right thing, it's just divide and rule. Wars aren't started by the population because they're not organised and we know that it's not in anyone's interests. It takes planning and leadership to start a war and lots of money. That's the origin of taxation afterall. 9/11 was just an excuse, ("Our Pearl Harbour", G.W. Bush), to continue where G.H.W. Bush left off. He had the sense to leave Saddam Hussein in power to prevent the civil war they have now. Funny how Tony Ben visited him on camera a week before kick off and suddenly we 'lost track' of him. Yeah, right!