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Have you been pulling hens teeth again recently? There was a TRD MT cluster listed on eBay dot com for only US $4,229.00 plus $58 for deliver plus a shed load for taxes. I don't think it sold so you can maybe haggle with the seller japan_pre-owned_vintage. Start at £50 and work your way from there
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I've used one once in 42 years.
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Probably only Chris Wilson will know this, I'm sure he has mentioned in the past its a square wave pulse signal so he might have some info on amplitude etc.
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The closest rears visually I have seen appear to be the mid-90's MR2 ones. these retail from £40 to £300. I cannot be bothered throwing £40 away on something that I don't need to but for anyone in need then it could be worth buying one in for a look at.
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I've measured up the rears and the holy grail is a sensor that is 15mm diameter and 15mm deep. The securing arm that the bolt fits to isn't an essential as ways can always be devised to get something to stay in place. The length is 1100mm from sensor to loom clip. The resistance is 1.1k ohm (spec 0.7-1.7). It doesn't seem to matter if the sensor exposed metal is a double bar or single button they reflect both the pre facelift and facelift designs and both are considered interchangable. Good luck with getting sellers to actually measure up a sensor though. I've asked a few to do that and none have been forthcoming beyond offering up useless advice of surely you can get that information from the part number - which you cannot.
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There are a few members with sensors that I know of, I suppose the main thing to get assurances on is would they get them back intact as a new set would have cost £1,200 from Toyota so it'd be an ask for someone to give those up without any guarantees of them coming back in the same condition.
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for sale Toyota Supra TT Stock Airbox And Surrounding Plastics
rider replied to rider's topic in Parts for Sale
Sold for £75, which comforably exceeded the estimate. -
for sale Toyota Supra TT Stock Airbox And Surrounding Plastics
rider replied to rider's topic in Parts for Sale
It has a broken clip so ideally also needs a new lid but I think you can still get the lids new from Toyota and when I bought one to replace the one ham fisted by professional mechanics it wasn't expensive. With someone having the manifold intake pipe available and lids also available I'd recon anyone wanting it will need to go to around £60 delivered which is something i'd be more than happy to pay if I wanted to revert from a cone to a stock airbox. I'd want to cut out the repair though and take a moulding off an undamaged box to do a crafted repair myself, that's just me though. For most, out of sight is just fine. -
for sale Toyota Supra TT Stock Airbox And Surrounding Plastics
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Looks like a TT one to me from the air intake pipe position on the air box. -
for sale Toyota Supra TT Stock Airbox And Surrounding Plastics
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There is one of these rare and in demand offerings up on an eBay auction finishing later today that is presently at around £17 delivered. It has a nasty repair to the main box which I'd want to tidy up but its below the air pipe so probably wouldn't even be noticable with the box and associated pipework in place. It's got to be worth a bit more than its currently running at to someone on here. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-Supra-Mkiv-Stock-Airbox-And-Surrounding-Plastics/124216808038?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225076%26meid%3De75d963f311040fabca957a70c704519%26pid%3D100678%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D124216808038%26itm%3D124216808038%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26brand%3DToyota&_trksid=p2380057.c100678.m3607&_trkparms=pageci%3A6660879b-aee4-11ea-b4ba-74dbd1802e9a%7Cparentrq%3Ab726933f1720ac3cf9095166fff549c8%7Ciid%3A1 -
You can still buy these, from Toyota or anyone who deals in supra parts like Keron or TCB. If you aren't bothered about it being a Toyota or original car colour then why not just go for your own taste. If you are concerned about limiting the appeal to any potential future owner group then you want to avoid pink, gold, silver, lime green, brown and go with red, red, and more red. Black and white are also good at retaining 'sports' car value but then you are into OE colours are the best colours. A certain section of the buying public will always crave the original colour over any alternative respray. With a colour change it also come down to the bits that are missed out like the engine bay, door shuts, behind trim, inside the boot area etc. No one likes a cheap paint job.
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Good look with complaints to the likes of FB, eBay or PayPal. The only American gargantuan I have ever come across that has any customer service beyond a revolving help menu churn or the strange concept of a customer forum is Amazon.
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The sensors are Supra specific. Rumour is other cars share the same hubs. The Lexus GS300 of the era and early Soarers but they were saloon cars giving a different and shorter route from sensor to the loom. So theoretically the sensor heads should be the same for a few cars but the fit is all different. There is no aftermarket option I've come across for those with a common hub just some sensors listed for the usual few hundred $'s. If you are paying a few hundred $'s people may as well just buy second hand Supra sensors that will fit for a few hundred £'s. The holy grail is the £10 sensor that can be made to work easily and effectively in a Supra.
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A converted car is and always will be worth less than an equivalent spec/condition factory car. The reason is ovbvious, if you can buy a factory car for the same price why would you conceivably go for the converted car? You see this reflected in the market for classic cars everywhere. There are rusted shells with the right VIN plate that sell for more than the complete and ruuning entry versions of the same model. All is not lost though, there was a thread about DIY VIN plates earlier this year where someone had changed a VIN plate to reflect the cars new colour. From there, its only a tiny step onto amending trim and running gear as well. It probably isn't even illegal to do changes to a VIN plate that don't alter the identity of the car. Its a ploy that is endemic in classic mini and ford cars purely as a means to alter the cars value to what the spec commands, if it were a genuine and usually rare varient of a factory car. But somehow becoming less rare by the day. There are so many mk 1 mini coopers and escort mexico's that have been discovered in the last 10 years, its simply incredible. Modyfing a VIN plate is illegal in the USA so any VIN modified car owners really should not ship their cars over there or the new owners could end up with a scrapped chunk of crushed metal.
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Maybe the club could fund an ABS sensor project to buy in a load of sensors and if they don't fit we can then see if they can be easily worked or machined to fit and those that do taken onto member car trials. Lets hear from the super mods on that. Imagine if that worked, all things could be opened up from printed air boxes, to trim and pipe clips through to essential safety components and the club would quite rightly receive universal praise from within Supra World.
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The one I bought in is sold as an ES300 sensor. I now know its wider and I think its also deeper. The only solution I can see is to find the centres with the correct contacts and resistance then sleeve or machine them to fit Supra hubs and then splice those intot he old sensor wiring. I have looked at manufacturers of sensor wire but none of them sell to anyone outside of component manufacturers. So people might be able to cobble together replacement sensors but finding a long run ABS wire for the rears looks like being impossible.
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The sensor I have really does need to be checked out for the depth before it could be considered a possible candidate. Its failed on width so its far from certain that the depth is correct for the Supra hub, or can be corrected. What do we recon guys, is it worthwhile pushing on with this? With either this sensor or any other similar ones? I think it'd need a few pieces to pull together. A OE sensor to scan and print a copy of the casing. A generic sensor, Like the one I have to pull apart and hopefully rehoused into a printed case or preferably it can be slimmed down sufficiently to sleeve into a Supra hub sized printed case. Then there would need to be a knackered sensor to splice a new bespoke one onto that Matt has volunteered to donate. Finally, it'd benefit from someone in the garge trade who has Supras in regularly who could whip in the prototype to see if its recognised and functions or knows of a customer with a rear sensor issue. That needs a few individuals to work together to see if its something that is in theory faesible but in practice takes a bit of effort and collective will to actually have a go. Potentially we appear to have the first parts covered if the sensor depth turns out to be OK leaving a garage operator or someone working on their Supra to join in. Is there anyone who would be interested to participate in an ABS sensor in car testing?
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I don't have a manufacturer details. There are quite a few producers listed on Alibaba for ABS speed sensors, available from US$3 each. It probably needs someone to head to China for a face to face to get a few hundred made but that isn't something that is likely to happen so something is going to have to be fashioned from parts that are available. This sensor is out on width by probably 4mm excess on the diameter. No idea on the how the sensor depth relates to the OE sensor as I have mislaid my reference, my spare rear sensors are hiding somewhere in my garage. If I was in a bind for a sensor and I knew the depth was good without access to a lathe I'd probably have a go on my fine stone wheel to polish off the excess plastic to see if sensor wall thickness exceeds 2mm in depth. I'd expect it would survive that as there is an O ring groove cut into the sensor wall. You just have to weigh up at what point does an engineered solution becomes a cottage botch.
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I checked the resistance of the ABS unit this morning and it is within the new Denso sensor spec, just. it's at the top end at a steady 1.599 kΩ (Supra spec 0.7 - 1.7 kΩ). But, its a failed project. No red star today. I have a spare hub sitting around and the sensor is too large for the bore. It is only just but size matters. The search, unfortunately, continues.
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Its just off an eBay trawl. Bought 2 in from two different sellers, only one has arrived nearly 2 months later. The other is still tracking in China. I was planning on getting a free broken sensor as once I splice and mend I'll test if and then if the resistance checks out I'll give it free to someone to trial as a replacement for a broken sensor on their car. That way, if everything works then anyone can go for their own £10 sensors so long as they can live with a 50% chance of it turning up and 6 to 8 weeks transit time. But for £10 its a punt worthy of a punt. - - - Updated - - - PM about to come over.
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Everyone knows ABS sensors, particularly those for the rears have been hard to track down for a few years now and bloody expensive to at almost £300 a sensor. This always surprised me as you see aftermarket sensors for typically £25 each and even those claiming to be genuine for standard models from the likes of Bosch run in at around £60 each. So ABS sensors have clearly been subjected to a very high Supra tax. Anyway, I've bought in a low cost sensor from a Chinese source made for a similar era car to the Supra that looks like the sensor head and connector are probably right for the Supra hub and the in car loom clip. the only thing is its too short to fit the run length of the Supra. What I'm after is anyone with a failed rear ABS sensor that I can splice the sensor off this one I have onto to see if that delivers a functioning sensor. I'd be able to check the resistance but then it'd need someone to fit into a car, I could do that myself but it'd then need to wait until it needed doing and all my sensors are presently functioning just fine. Imagine if you can though, replacement sensors for under £10 if it works. I figured that has to be worth a punt and got to be worth a super red star status in Supra forum speak. So if anyone has a broken sensor they can donate, do pass it on to me and I'll get to splicing, soldering and shrink wrapping.
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There is one for sale on eBay for £995 plus postage. For that price I'd probably prefer to test the unit first in another car or send it off for testing. If there is no circuit board damage you can buy a garage full of capacitors for that kind of money.
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I've only had gear selection issues with a much newer Getrag auto gearbox that turned out to be low oil pressure after changing a whole load of oil and other expensive parts. That was a pain and expensive to diagnose even when the more modern boxes provide a lot of live data to work with so good luck tracking this down. Pending some pearls of wisdom there are a couple of old threads on the lack of reverse problem that may be worth reading through. One supports a problem with an ECU. Your capacitors don't look like failed ones from anything I've ever seen where the capacitor body has either swelled or had fluid weep. http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?333126-Auto-Gearbox-issues-and-ECU-s http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?283708-No-reverse-gear-Autobox-need-help
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Toyota sell them, or they are on eBay. I've got a spare set of new rubbers knocking around of sides and lowers so if you want to run a price past me I'll see if its worth digging those out. If you haven't done them before you should do all 4. The side rubber bolts are held in with araldite so will require some serious heat onto the bolts to melt the adhesive before removing.