Sorry guigsy i looked at your "public profile" and it says America, and i must apologise as i did not have my physic powers turned on, they would have told me where you lived, [treat sarcasm with sarcasm] i have been looking at the posts about welcoming people to the club, and found that there is one post that i read, that sticks in my mind more than others , it is the one where the person says, if you didn't know them would you speak to the person in a pub the same way you address them on the forum, i doubt it ,but i also read that a lot of newbies withdraw and they are worried what other people might say and made to look a fool , one upmanship i think it is called, i also felt intimidated and was going to stop posting but now have decided to post on and let the school yard bullies have there say, take it on the chin , and when it comes to a meet , in the pub see how brave they are then , or if there sarcasm is as active in the pub as it is on the forum, again i doubt it , but we will see ,this forum is a good one and it does take all kinds to make it function , but a little more welcome and a little less sarcasm , especially to newbies might go a long way . By the way i dislike text writing but a simple word, in a nice way , is a lot better way i think . But thats just me.