Alex C

Spot on. My car gets to 100mph in about 9sec, the Supra was about 11sec (auto), but after that not as much in it as you'd think until the supra dies off a bit when the converter locks in 4th. A manual would be closer....

Paul, what is the mileage. Also,how much would you charge to convert it to manual?!

Hmmm...just stumbled on this thread. Some interesting and sufficiently mis-informed opinions but this is the Supra forum so bound to be a little bit of bias. Anyway my thoughts here and here for anyone thats really interested in a comparison. A couple of years later, the Skyline has been pretty reliable up until recently when the head cracked and a re-built head was on the cards. Other than that is it still expectionally good fun to drive when then moment is right. I must say I am tempted by a manual single turbo Sup again at the mo however.

Or have you blown off a turbo hose, common problem and usually starts with a loud pop when coming on boost followed by crap, if any, idle.

Hi all I've always refered to this test: Air Filters

Seen this around quite a lot and its lovely (a lot of people think its my old car!). Even though i'm often going the other way in the GT-R, I still get a twinge of regret. Absolute bargin for somebody.

It must a least be in a dream in a dream. Maybe even in a dream in a dream in a dream:d

Great, you'll have a polish intake pipe before you know it:blink:

Plus a good aircraft;)

He just scored, typical:rolleyes:

Are you sure thats a BPU Homer...I'm sure I've seen a vid describing the Supra as a mid 500 bhp single? Its doing 190mph+ at the end...physics peclude that unless you have at least 450bhp. Anyway classic vid, pleased to see it again even if is tucked away on my hard drive somewhere:)

Watched it after my mate downloaded them each week as they were aired in the States. Absolutely fantastic serious imo, realistic, darkly funny, tragic and thought provoking. Watch out for AK-47's being collected;)

A few people have pm’d me asking about my thoughts on these cars having now owned both. I felt I needed a bit of time to get used to the Skyline first but now feel ready to masticate a bit…its long so settle in or just leave now! For background I owned a 1995 TT Auto UK spec tuned by Thor to BPU+ (HKS FMIC, APEXi SAFCii, Blitz SBC-id @ 1.3bar) making ~380bhp on Thors Hub Dyno, a claimed 420bhp at the flywheel* I now have a 1996 R33GTR (Non V-Spec) running 478bhp at the hubs on Abbey motorsport hub Dyno, a claimed minimum 518Bhp flywheel* * See below on Power Looks Well judge for your self: http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=198133 For me the Supra is still the prettier car, its raw lines are still echoed in many of the current coupes on the road like the XK jags, Astons etc although admittedly these do show the signs of a few more decades of refinement and more classic tastes. Obviously once plastered with kits and wings as mine was, some of the natural beauty is lost in favour of a more aggressive look, but its still a great looking machine in any guise. The Skyline is not pretty, in fact its probably pretty ugly, but for me that is part of the appeal. I grew up drooling over the R33 and love its muscular arches which instantly elevate it above the regular R33 GTS’s etc. I’ve had more vocal attention from yoofs and Barry’s in the GTR already than I ever got in the Sup…not sure how that makes me feel but for sure the Skyline is still known / recognised by more people. Build Quality This one isn’t even close. The Supra feels like a car worth twice as much – no rattles, no squeaks, solid feeling doors, thicker glass, better materials. In every area you can see where the Nissan engineers have had to compromise (or just ran out of budget) to make up for the weight of the ATTESSA and HICAS. On the other hand, this does emphasise the GT feel of the Sup and the more raw feel of the Skyline. I kinda like that at the moment but time will tell if it becomes wearing on longer journeys etc. Power My premise for selling the Supra was twofold – one was for more interaction with a car and the other was that the Skyline promised another 100bhp in an already up-rated N1 block with treated & forged internals. I’ll get to the feel of the cars in the handling section below. Power wise, my thoughts are still clouded. In part this is because I never really knew what the figures for the Supra should be interpreted as – a hub dyno should be an accurate ‘at the wheels’ figure but I’ve also read on here that Thor’s figures are consistently pretty close to the flywheel figures calculated from some rolling roads like SRR. Whatever the actual number, the car was very quick and was on a par with the new V8 M3 down Marham’s runway up to about 160mph. I was hoping the skyline would feel like it was in a different league but at the moment it doesn’t. 1st to 3rd for sure are gone in a flash, but that’s not quite 100mph and from then on I’m not convinced that the Supra would not have performed its top of 3rd gear magic high rev charge to 130mph and reeled in the advantage if there was one. I think a 500Bhp + 500Ibs/ft skyline should be noticeably quicker and so far (despite running 1.6bar) it doesn’t seem to be. I’ll be undertaking a few tests to see what the real deal is however as aerodynamics might be playing a part also. Sound For me, not much comes close to a tuned RB26 at high rpm so +1 for the Skyline here (but still think Supra’s sound awesome too!) Handling & feedback Here’s where I hoped the decision would pay off and now I have a feel for the R33, thankfully its starting to. I must point out both cars are on 19” alloys which are an inch too large for both cars in my view – changing to 18” soon. The steering on the supra has always been a little bugbear of mine..although it weights up at speed I always felt it was lacking in feel and feedback. This made it a nice smooth drive (the GT aspect again) but was a bit frustrating on the back roads. The Skyline is much better here, great feelsome signals coming back through the factory fit Momo. The Nissan also feels more alive in general, eager to turn in and has a phenomenal party piece of exiting roundabouts and tight bend under full power with a bit of rear slip but good traction at the front thanks to the active diff. My Supra still had the UK suspension which was a great ride/handling compromise but was certainly softer than the R33 with its AST coilovers. A J-spec supra might be different with the Bilsteins but I’ve never driven one in anger. The Skyline can simply put more power down more of the time and for that, along with its riffle-bolt gear shift and awesome (Stoptech) brakes, it would be out of sight on most average B roads within a couple of miles. Summary For me, the difficult decision to part with the Supra is starting to pay off…once I get a few cosmetic things done I will be a happy man with my new car. What I hope I have proven is that the Supra (in Auto form particularly) is a wonderful GT machine with great looks and build quality and in many ways is the better all-round package. The Skyline is a rawer, aggressive looking beast of a car (when tuned) and although it may need even more power to match the high speed legs of a Supra, for such a large (and practical!) car it really has no right to be so wieldy and responsive. Both brilliant cars and an owner of either should have lots of mutual respect rather than any biased judgements without real hands-on experience. I am just lucky to have owned two of my obtainable dream cars I’ve wanted since the late 90’s. Hope I didn't bore anyone to death:D

Not bad:D I'm pleased to have sold it to someone like Andy. A couple of dreamers phoned up interested in the "Nissan Soopra innit"

Deposit taken so sold pending payment. I'm REALLY going to miss this car:(

Amen to that.

Bump. No interest in this at all from piston heads or Autotrader:( 2 weeks to go before insurance becomes a real headache for me...

I think its worth it too, its another one where its probably worth more to break but that would be a tragedy of the highest proportions. As the snout of this rather agressive beastie is now sat on the drive, someone will bag a great deal!

Bump. Skyline is here so this is now on pistonheads as well. http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/1231960.htm

It was in place when I got the car mate so not sure sorry!

Well I’ve finally bitten the bullet and purchased an R33 GTR (no taxi comments please:p) with a very decent spec for the price. With regret, my Supra now has to go. I drove 567 miles in it yesterday making the round trip to see the skyline and it really made me realise how great a long distance car it is. Its definitely better screwed together than the Nissan but to get to the same level of performance with the Sup would cost me a fair bit more from where am now. There are some cheap TT Auto’s out there now, mine will not be one of them as the level of care, attention to detail and history it has had makes it quite special. I have looked after it fastidiously, always following warm-up / cool-down routine and washing & protecting with premium detailing products. Oil is changed very 3000-4000 miles using Silkoline Pro-S 10W-50. I’m asking for £8500 ono including the private plate (M5UPR) which is worth at least £500 and would rather avoid the hassle of having to change it if possible (it really finishes the car anyway). Please post here or PM me for any more pictures / details, you can also get me at [email protected] The details: 1995 UK supplied TT Auto 115K miles Tax until 31/10/09 MOT until Mid January 2010 Engine & Mechanical Standard 2JZ-GTE with steel bladed UK-spec turbos Blitz NUR Spec Exhaust with double Decat Blitz induction kit HKS FMIC with polished hard pipe kit Blitz boost controller with Power ID meter APEXI SAFC-2 Boost cut controller Recent NGK Iridium spark plugs New Coil pack clips x6 TRD chrome strut brace Oil catch can HKS BOV 3G grooved brake discs Goodrich Braided hoses CW brake pads Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric Rear tyres Falken FK451 Front tyres Exterior Full colour change (including visible areas under-bonnet) Bomex Front bumper TRD rear wing Veilside Skirts & Spats Kahn 19” split rims Clear front indicators Brand new UK spec glass Headlights Late J Spec rear lights Interior Complete leather & alcantara interior re-trim by G & B Carbon dash, centre console and door trim Apexi EGT gauge (in twin A-pillar pod) Apexi Boost gauge (in twin A-pillar pod) White Custom Dials with chrome surrounds Tinted windows all round Razo auto shift lever Small fire extinguisher mounted under the glovebox Other Estimated Power 380-400 Bhp @ 1.2bar Clifford CAT 1 Alarm / Immobiliser (with certificate) Tracker (not currently activated but can be re-subscribed) Extensive history folder including: Original owner’s manual & service book HPI check A very large number of receipts and invoices! Bad bits! I always appreciate when a seller is up-front with any issues so I like to do the same. The car is not a garage queen and therefore has some minor cosmetic issues. This first is the usual stone chips to the front end. The top coat has chipped in a couple of areas as shown: The wind took my tent at a show recently and as sods law dictates the tent pole made contact with my drivers door leaving a 6” scratch that is just too deep to polish out. Its noticeable from about 4 feet away but a touch-up, wet sand and polish would hide it completely: The rear spat has taken a beating in the inner arch and the primer is showing through (though about bonding some rubber on there actually to protect in future): There as a small bubble appearing in the boot lid – bizarre place for one maybe some contamination from the re-spray. Should be easily rectified for not much: The drivers bolster is starting to show a bit of wear. I'm sure G&B could repair this panel perfectly for a minimum outlay: In general however the car is fantastic value for money and gets lots of admiring glances at shows and on the road. I want to sell to an enthusiast who will keep looking after the car to the same high standard as me and its previous owner Dave (Geezabloke). More pics below, thanks for looking!

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