Ok cheers guys will try a few more of these, tried sky,adrian flux,bell/elephant/admiral,cis,Quinn, lots of internet sites also, looked at owners forums etc, phoned all i can find in max power, fast car,redline. if civic was standard then he could get insured no problem at all, the trouble with the glanza is noone seems to have that model on their data base only the older starlet up till 95. I know its because the car is modded but he can get insured on a UK spec standard supra for £2100 lol this does make it all a bit crazy the way the insurance game works. Dont you think ?