Dragonlady

1) Sted & Lynz 2) Havard x 2 3)Dragonlady & "+1" 4) 5) 6) 7) 8) 9) 10)

Thanks again to the NW crew for making us feel so welcome (well that is apart from the few that ribbed us on our choice of new car). Had a great time and it was nice to catch up with everyone again. Big thanks again to Mike - you're a gent. Sharon

Type of nutcase?

type of banana - straight or bent?

Type of light bulb? I like screw fittings

Any who cares (as long as it doesn't have meat on)

Neither in fact I would take them both out and shoot them

Colour of Cats Eye? Mine - none after looking at them all night

I like the big white cotton wool like ones And Ian........ do I need to say anything

BP station Junction 27 M6 09:30 1. Sted and Lynz 2. Dragonlady and "+1" 3. Ellis (aka Ranter) and Jack 4. 5. 6. 7. Chester Services M56 10:30 1. 2. 3. 4. Ponderso Cafe Llangollan ( cafe in the clouds ) 12:00 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. Then onward to Bala etc and onward to the Pancake House

Wiggin tree, Wiggin tree, Wiggin tree, Wiggin tree Oh and by the way I vote for Wiggin tree

5 more sleeps ---- mmmmm pancakes Anyone up for meeting on the Saturday night?

The 447 is at the flywheel and I know that this was the readout after the NEO was fitted. I honestly cannot explain the 370 as several years have past and I am getting old so my memory is going. As I have said in my earlier post I think that the car was generating over 400 at the dyno day and therefore the increase after NEO fitting was only 20 - 30 bhp. I think that the 370 is on lower boost but without seeing the printout I can't remember.

I can't believe that this is still going on. We went through this last time after publishing the Weston Figures both from the mkiv dyno day and after the NEO was fitted - big mistake as we got a hard time as well. We also asked the same question about a reliable and trustworthy dyno and to be honest what one person said was a good one another one said was cr*p, so there really is no common ground on this one. I didn't want to post up about the Weston printout earlier but as everyone is hung up on the dyno print out and the increase in power there was after the NEO was fitted I think I need to. I am not sure what the printout is that Billy is looking at with the 380 value, I do remember Weston giving us 2 printouts when the NEO was fitted but can't remember what they were to be honest. However I do know that on the MKIV dyno day before the NEo was fitted the car was pushing over 400 at the flywheel, and was slightly more the TrickTT's. From what I remember after fitting the NEO I think the increase in power was marginal, about 20/30 bhp. However i must point out that the NEO was not fitted to increase BHP. Billy I am not sure of your reasons for putting the car on the dyno again, but if it is for your own personal interest then I would say go for it. However if it is to prove to the forum what the car is producing then I would definately forget it because my feeling is if the dyno shows more power than stock then some people will not believe you, and will call the readouts fake. Thats why we never bothered. The only way that you could support the read-outs is to pull the engine apart and find out what has been done. That said chances are that when you put the engine back together that the car would be f&*@ed. One thing you need to accept on this forum is that sometimes no matter what, people will argue against you, and won't agree to meeting you half way. I apologise I should have warned you about publishing BHP figures on this forum - sorry

Hey don't apologise to +1 - lol

Well all I can say is that the car has been running better for the past 3 years since we had the controller fitted, than it ever did before. But I am not getting into argument over the car, it's not mine anymore, all I can say, and I think that this will backed up by alot of people on this forum who know it, is that it an impressive aero and has never had any issues at all.

I don't understand why you are advising him to start modifying a car which is running without any problems at all. The number of times I have heard about people p***g about with their engines only to start getting over fuelling problems etc... and then having to pay out £'000's pounds to get their cars back on the road. If it was playing up I could understand your comments. Why would Weston try and rip us off for £500 - it's not really worth it, surely it's just pocket change to them.

The curious thing is though is that everyone elses read outs on the dyno day were as they expected, so I see no reason why Weston would tweek ours.

I think that I had better try and clear up a little of the confusion here. When we first got the Supra we took it to Weston Performance for a MKIV dyno day. At that time it was showing a readout of over 400 at the flywheel but was running rich, and as we had a friend who had to have an engine rebuild because of his running rich we thought that we had better do something about it so had the Apexi Neo fuel controller fitted and mapped. Also before fitting the fuel controller the car was hunting on idle, but since fitting we have got better MPG (which sounds weird when talking about a TT Supra), no more hunting problems, the fuelling has been resolved and the engine runs sweet. Personally, and I appreciate that the car is no longer ours, I would not recommend removing the fuel controller. With respect to the retrospective print out after the Neo was fitted the 447 is at the flywheel, therefore the car is generating approx 400 bhp at the wheels. It has been down the pod once/ twice and from memory the quarter mile was mid 13's, not bad for an Aerotop with all of the extra weight from the reinforced chasis and and ice install in the boot. No-one knows what has been done to the car, all that is known is that it appears that Kansai may have had their hands on the car, and that it has a very, very strong engine. We could have paid to have it all pulled apart to see what had been done but why would you want to when it runs so sweet. So please don't give Billy a hard time, all I can say is that the car is a bit of a dark horse .

Ian will thank you for reminding me, as I have only just started talking to him again

Lynz - loving the sig, is Sted going add his time to his sig

11 Sleeps and counting ..... mmm pancakes. If isn't wasn't for the close proximity to family I think that the combination of pancakes, hills and country roads could tempt us back over the otherside of the country. (Oh and I suppose I should say the NW crew as well before I get shouted at )

Thanks, I must admit that it was lavished with TLC when we had it and all the paperwork that went with the car will support that. Think Billy was more than a little surprised when he came to see it. When the car was mapped at Weston Performance they were impressed by the engine and also the previous owner Muffleman (who now owns AFR) also said that it was powerful and strong. It's sad to see it go, but at least it has gone to someone who will appreciate it. All that I can say is have fun!

Please no, no, not you stalking me!! You have little chance of us fading anywhere especially when pancakes are still on the menu

Ahhh thanks Mr H. We have loved the car ownership and have made some great friends as a result of joining this forum.