Chris Wilson Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Yes, Greddy used the Alcon kit, be aware replacement discs and bells are possibly more expensive than many will suspect, so make sure they do not need refurbing, or get prices first. Excellent kit though, you get what you pay for with brakes and clutches. IMHO anything not AP, Brembo or Alcon is not worth having on a decent modern performance car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 They are brand new Chris, never been fitted to the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Nice! BTW, I now stock my fast road compound pads for the current shape GTR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Nice! BTW, I now stock my fast road compound pads for the current shape GTR. I just fitted a new set of pads last week, next time. I'm tempted to try and fit a set of GTR brakes to my Supra, think that would work or bad idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Probably not, apart from wheel size to accommodate them there's probably far too much rear bias due to the differing weight distributions of the Supra and the transaxled GTR. You could perhaps use the front discs and calipers, you'd need to do the maths. I think people in the US`are using the Cadillac front calipers (same as the GTR's) on other things. A 360mm disc should be more than adequate for a MKIV though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Thanks for the advice, may aswell just go UK's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 IMHO anything not AP, Brembo or Alcon is not worth having on a decent modern performance car. Great advice. For anything other than serious Track use a proper UK setup is more than adequate (even the num brothers use a UK setup on their track cars). I made the mistake of going for KAD Brakes over a well setup UK - that was a major let down. imi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex341 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 What about KSports? They seem to be well priced and look pretty decent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gpro Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 What about KSports? They seem to be well priced and look pretty decent ksports are very good for the price but don't go for a standard pad, they fade extremely easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 What about KSports? They seem to be well priced and look pretty decent Has anyone tried ordering spares for K-Sport brakes? This is often where budget brands really fall short. With safety critical components like brakes and tyres, I wouldn't even consider buying a budget brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 What about KSports? They seem to be well priced and look pretty decent http://mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?303375-Need-better-brakes-for-mi-single-turbo-Supra-what-is-your-advice&p=3820928&viewfull=1#post3820928 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveR Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 What about KSports? They seem to be well priced and look pretty decent I have K-Sports (356mm discs, 8-pot front / 4-pot rear) as an upgrade from stock UK specs and in my opinion they are exactly that - an upgrade. I have the standard discs with uprated pads and a braced master cylinder and they are infinitely better than the previous setup I had. Certainly I've never encountered a problem reigning in Suki's 700-odd bhp with them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhy Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I'm considering a D2 brake kit - 356mm with better pads all round and understand they are pretty much a K Sport setup. I haven't seen negative reviews on them and know that the Skyline and Evo guys use them too. They could be an option Batmax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmax Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 I'm quite willing to monoblock brembo it look the best option, waiting just for an pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmax Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 This kit is good or top ? I like no brand into calipers, to put supra decal, it seems these came with logo http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Alcon-Brake-Kit-Front-P-T-Alcon-6-6pot-FOR-Toyota-Supra-/281167306629 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Price up replacement discs and pads for both AP and Alcon kits, that may help you decide. The pads the AP kits come with are pretty dire, they deserve Performance Friction pads, which are much MUCH better. Not sure what compound pads the Alcons come with these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmax Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 Thanks a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmax Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 pbbrakes anyne try these stuff, it seems very cheap very temped too ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmax Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 Drilled or Slotted or both ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Price up replacement discs and pads for both AP and Alcon kits, that may help you decide. The pads the AP kits come with are pretty dire, they deserve Performance Friction pads, which are much MUCH better. Not sure what compound pads the Alcons come with these days. The pads are originally a bit crap - when i changed mine last year i upgraded to the Pagid RS4-2 race pads which are superb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 You DO NOT want drilled discs. They will have a much reduced life and wear out the pads much faster. Modern pad compounds do not need drilled discs, and they are thermally inferior to plain or slotted ones. They are really for wet racing and should be considered sacrificial. One wet race can see off a pair of drilled discs. I have dozens of dead ones here, cracked after one wet F3 race. Plain or a modest amount of slots are what you want. The Chinese calipers often have a very small choice of pad compounds and the calipers are floppy, especially when hot. The discs themselves are probably made of melted down bicycles. The AP, Brembo and Alcon front and rear calipers are used across a wide range of road car kits and should have excellent re-sale value. I can probably find some usable AP discs when the new ones are knackered. You can easily get new piston and seal kits for the "big 3" makes. And replacement discs. Matching the El Cheapo ones can be a nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmax Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 They are brand new Chris, never been fitted to the car. my oem caliper almost touche in the wheel, I guess I will have more room from these Greddy calipers or others ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 The only 100% sure test is to try your rims on a car with these exact same brakes, or vice versa, if clearance looks to be potentially tight. AP have a template for their JZA80 kit, not sure about Alcon, but if you are working to a few mm, using a cardboard template may not be accurate enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmax Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 That's my big concern ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMan Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 I'd say first look at some basics like ensuring your brakes are well bled and the master cylinder seals are good, the TT supra has some of the best stock brakes in the world and it sounds like there is something off. Massive brake upgrades look awesome but will problably do very little to shorten your stopping distance, what they allow is repeatabillity long after the stock system would have become heat soaked and faded. Do you have stainless brake lines, they made a massive difference in the pedal feel on mine for not much money. Trust Chris, a set of upgraded pads discs and lines on the stock system should be all a street car really needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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